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Roy Henry
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Posted - 2016.05.08 17:11:12 -
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While it is sad that it had to come to such a situation as this, I hope that if nothing else this is a statement to the leadership of rapid withdrawal who have been so disrespectful and unwilling to see it from the gal mil point of view.
While you do have the right to be friends with whoever you choose, you cannot expect to be an accepted ally of both sides in the perennial snuff vs gal mil circle jerk. Rdraw had many options if it really was looking for allies to help them with fw operations, such as working with the rest of gal mil. This avenue remained open to rdraw leadership the entire time, their leadership figures just as much a part of the decision making process as anyone else in gal mil. Instead of choosing to cooperate as a team with the rest of gal mil to achieve goals, they gave almost no positive input into discussion.
They threw the rest of galmil under a bus to save themselves from potential pirate aggression. They can claim a great many things but their reasoning can all be discredited except for this fact.
Will this war bring peace or help ease tensions in gal mil between rdraw and everyone else, I expect not. But at the same time we have to assume that rdraw has no intention of ever really working with gal mil, as they have traditionally done.
Do we seek to work with the squids to displace them from suj, no, at least I don't.
Do I expect to just murder their pilots without repercussions, no. I expect that I will suffer many losses at their hands and at the hands of their pirate benefactors. But at the same time I think it is better to make violence when their is violence in your heart, rather then let it fester into the passive aggressive **** show that we have now.
They will make many claims about me, but I do what I must for the greater good, and sometimes that means making things worse, hopefully so they may get better. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.10 17:17:54 -
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Dread Operative wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:A lot of Snuff members are not happy about the blue with RDRAW either.
Many are using alts to shoot RDRAW until the time comes when they can do it on their mains again. This is an outright lie.
Dread getting mad that somebody else is spewing **** about his crew just to try and rustle him.
Irony is not lost here. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.10 17:34:55 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Roy Henry wrote:Dread Operative wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:A lot of Snuff members are not happy about the blue with RDRAW either.
Many are using alts to shoot RDRAW until the time comes when they can do it on their mains again. This is an outright lie. Dread getting mad that somebody else is spewing **** about his crew just to try and rustle him. Irony is not lost here. It's a video game, I don't get mad, I get drunk and laugh my ass off. But this is an outright lie and being called out as such. Not everyone is as salty as you Roy, this war will be amazing and we/me are looking forward to it.
No salt at all m8 just having some fun. I'm sure the war will be fun for everyone involved. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.12 16:11:55 -
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I thought Reddit was where wars were fought in 2016. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.13 18:06:30 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:Having had experience of 2 militia civil wars as both a grunt and leadership. I have a little advice for the sake of your militia:
1) You could do with trying to agree mutual rules of engagement. For example I-HUB bashes in public fleets are a bad idea to prosecute the war in. Any neutral corps/pilots involved will get darn annoyed if they start having their fleet mates killed whilst they are trying to achieve a strategic objective for the militia. You then risk dragging more people into picking a side.
2) Try and keep talking to each other civilly, unless your goal is to force your opponent out of the militia you may have to 'kiss and make up' eventually. If RDRAW are forced out of the militia then they will either join Snuff outright or possibly join another militia and become bitter enemies. Likewise if 'the greybeards' get fed up and leave outright then a majority of Gal Mils higher skill pilots leave as well which can hamstring a militia for years to come.
That's all the advice I can give really without appearing to pick sides (which I am prohibited from doing by my current employers).
As to comments on the Mini Civil wars it's sounds like a different situation. The first civil war was in direct response to open aggression from Winmatar AWOXing militia Poses for their own gain and refusing to back down. They had to leave the militia because they were openly co-ordinating AWOXes. The 2nd Civil War was really civil war 1.1 a lot of noise and little fighting because the goal was to stop them recruiting and growing in strength again. Op success both times but the militia suffered long lasting wounds from the episode.
It sounds like your situation may be avoidable if both sides wish to compromise.
I think we have remained a lot more civil then people have expected and hope it stays that way. While we have our disagreements that have caused months of passive aggressive bitterness followed by open violence I for one hope to leave it at that.
I hope it doesn't escalate to ihub bash interference or attacking each other's anchored infrastructure. I'm sure a lot of third parties would love that but in the end I really hope we can just bloody each other's nose for a week or two then move on.
Might be anti climactic, might be overly dramatic, but it's not like we had a good working relationship to start with and at least now we had a chance to vent some of the pent up feels openly and can move on after.
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Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.18 12:30:10 -
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I accept your offer and in return bestow upon ye the most comprehensive of srp programs. All your atrons and algos, your svipuls and caracals shall be replaced with a suitable replacement.
Anything larger will be replaced with a full 100% derptron policy. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.05.18 15:25:49 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Svipuls you say? Time to officer fit my svipuls for dank SRP!
Must have at least 3 purples to quality for the officer fit srp package. |
Roy Henry
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Posted - 2016.06.18 22:35:44 -
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As I or anyone else who was there for that fight in Aivonen could tell you of course there was a lot of chatter about shootin rdraw but the fc ordered us not to and we did not. Until they boosted us, then it was open season. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.06.21 15:57:22 -
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ivona fly wrote:Dread Operative wrote:The thing is you legit can't PROVE anything, it's all opinions based on hearsay and emotional interpretations of what happened. You can believe anything you want but, it doesn't mean it's right. Entities in GalMil were specifically hunting down known Rapid link alts (fact), You guys declared war on them (fact), with supers, BS's, and capitals on the field you guys made sure to shoot Rapid first in Aivonon even though they weren't aggressing BLFOX/JUSTK (fact). Who did what first, and who wronged who first, is all personal interpretation of history and where they hear that history from can be very biased. So again, because nothing is proved, it's all personal biased opinion, told from the biased views of the person telling the tale. On both ends.
But thank you for your opinion, you are entitled to it. Not fact I have been a part of booster hunts that got stood down because it was a known rdraw booster with blue standing. This was before the war, we have accidentally killed blue ones that are not rdraw it can happen in busy systems, boosters die in seconds.
Pre war we never hunted known RDRAW link Alts. Fact. We only shot rdraw after they boosted which the pilot who boosted us admitted to aiming at us later. Fact.
Saying fact after a statement doesn't mean it supersedes actual fact because you say it's fact. Fact. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.06.24 15:55:01 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Oreb Wing wrote:This is all balls. We could have taken full warzone control without too much effort for a 3rd time before Minmil if we had never experienced this divide. It wouldn't be a bad thing to add some pressure even now so that CCP might install some automated medal system that is based off of iHub bash statistics within a certain period of time or minimum % of damage done. Something. But oh well, a civil war is what we got instead. Why would you want to take the warzone again squids havnt recovered from the past 2 times it just wouldnt make any sense at all
Squids will never recover. Spent a year or two waiting and no change. Burn it all. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.06.25 15:39:00 -
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A lot of un named neutral Alts have come forth saying they are against the rdraw war. Very few people who want to step forth against it have spoken up, so the war continues.
If you are opposed to fighting please post on your main so people will actually take stock in what you say. |
Roy Henry
Black Fox Marauders
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Posted - 2016.06.28 17:23:01 -
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Searly1981 Searle wrote:The best part of this post is the fact that rdraw played almost no part in the whole 10 pages of it, you were pretty much just talking to yourselves dont you have slack for that?
Also cant believe i just read all that....
You must be new to the eve o forums. let me be your guide. |
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